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David Grusch claims two alien species are at war in Earth's skies

Former intelligence officer and UFO whistleblower David Grusch has alleged that two different species of non-human intelligence (NHI) are engaged in conflict within Earth's skies. During an appearance on ‘The Joe Rogan Experience’, Grusch stated that officials have documented what appears to be warfare, remarking, “It looks like conflict. It smells like conflict.”

Grusch claimed that there have been at least a dozen or two craft crashes allegedly connected to these battles between species, which he identified as “grays” and “reptilians.” He specifically mentioned a “Tic Tac-shaped” object in relation to these reports.

Grusch emphasized that he has not personally witnessed these crashes or any alien bodies. Instead, his claims are based on highly classified files, videos, and statements from military and government insiders. This follows his 2023 testimony to Congress, where he alleged that the U.S. government has operated secret programs to recover and reverse-engineer spacecraft of non-human origin without congressional oversight. The U.S. military and the White House have consistently maintained that no physical evidence proving the existence of such life or craft has been found.

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